All About Morton's Neuroma: Surgery & Recovery
NOTE TO READERS: I am writing this post for other sufferers of Morton's Neuroma who may be considering surgery. It turned into a book by the time I finished, and is full of details and pictures. Possibly TMI for anyone else.
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As I write this, I am two full weeks out from having surgery on both feet to remove Morton's neuromas. Let me just say first that I am doing great. But I will start at the beginning...
I am a 52-year-old woman (almost 53), 5' 4" tall. My weight fluctuates between 128 and 133 regularly. I'm in overall good health. I've exercised regularly and faithfully for the past 21 years. I have never smoked. I did not drink alcohol at all until the age of 43. And I drink alcohol moderately/socially today (a glass of wine, a margarita, a girlie martini). I have no other health conditions other than silent reflux. And I tell you all this because my doctor told me that complications are more likely to occur in heavy smokers and patients with other health issues; like diabetes. I would venture to say that being overweight could make this surgery more difficult, as well.
I have never been a runner. (I ran the 50 yard dash in 9.7 in sixth grade. I was not born to run, you might say.) And I'm not athletic. I burn calories and increase my heart rate simply for health and weight control; usually indoors while reading or watching TV. If I have abused my feet, it has been by wearing the wrong shoes. I spent much of my life wearing very high heels on a regular basis and shoes that were cute rather than sensible. I remember shopping with my mom while I was still in my twenties and making fun of her for the shoes she was trying on. She was in her forties. And she said, "One day you will stop wearing those heels and buy comfortable shoes, too. Just wait." She was absolutely correct. Nothing is as important to me as comfort today. But the damage was already done.
A few years ago (within the last five, but I can't remember precisely when), I started to notice weird pains in the ball of my foot when walking. I have always liked to walk around barefoot in the house. It just feels comfortable to me and my mom always made us take our shoes off in the house. So it felt foreign to keep my shoes on inside as an adult. But I remember when I started to feel these shooting pains and sensations going into the third and fourth toes. The best way I can describe it is that it felt like my toes were cracking as I walked. It was a weird sensation. There was tingling and numbness (which later evolved into sharper pain). Initially, I just thought I had aging feet. But when that toe stuff started, I got worried that something more was going on. So I got online and Googled my symptoms. That was the first time I had ever heard of Morton's neuroma.
I asked friends for foot doctor recommendations and several people urged me to see Dr. James Yu at Tennessee Orthopedic Alliance in Nashville. I was also urged to skip going to a podiatrist and only consider a medical doctor who specialized in the foot. That seemed like good advice to me (no offense intended to podiatrists). I saw Dr. Yu the first time a couple of years ago. At that point, my left foot was giving me more problems than my right. And I tried my first cortisone injection. It was not as awful as I expected it to be. Not pleasant, but I was impressed with how well I endured it (since I consider myself a little wimpy when it comes to pain). I got some relief for a while. But not nearly long enough. I still wasn't ready to consider surgery, though.
Over time, the pains and weird sensations increased in both feet. I knew I was going to have the surgery at some point, but I was still trying to avoid it and put it off. When I did it, I wanted it to be at the end of winter so I would have months of sandal wearing ahead of me while my foot was still sore. Part of my procrastinating also had to do with my high deductible and forking over the cash. LOL.
This past Fall my pain increased a little more. Cold weather seemed to worsen my pain. One night during an important event, I had to sit down because the pain was so severe in both feet. And I was wearing shoes that had previously been some of my most comfortable. But for several minutes, I could not have walked to save my life. It was terrible. And all I could do was sit and massage my feet (in public). I knew that nobody comprehended the level of pain and I felt like a prematurely old lady. Since I have always made fun of myself and called myself a baby, I assume nobody thinks my pain is as bad as it is. I'm beginning to think I'm not as wimpy as I believe I am. I'm just very expressive and I talk about whatever I'm feeling (bad AND good) more than the average person. I also don't try to appear tough by downplaying anything. I tell it like it is (from my perspective, of course).
My right foot was the worst when I went back to Dr. Yu in early January because I had a trip to Disney World planned with my kids and grandkids (5 and 6). I was a little concerned about how my feet would hold up, but knew the weather would be warm enough for me to wear my most comfortable shoes and sandals. I also thought cortisone injections in both feet would probably be a good idea. This time my injections were given by Dana Duff, Dr. Yu's PA. Wow. All I can say is, if you live in Nashville and need a cortisone injection, he is your guy. I did not feel pain. I was absolutely amazed at his skill.
I suffered with frozen shoulder for about six months this past year and while in physical therapy for that, I had mentioned my neuroma issues. My therapist suggested I go to Target and buy WalkFit orthotic inserts. I did and they helped take pressure off the ball of my foot. But I could not insert them into all of my shoes. I did, however, have one pair of recently purchased shoes that were absolutely perfect for the orthotics. (Does anyone know why this word is spelled both orthotics and orthodics? I've seen it both ways and both appear to be correct spellings.)
The shoes were Merrells I found at TJ Maxx. They have a rubber sole, but not much padding (room for the inserts). They are a loose fit with a fabric upper and a zipper up the center. And they were the first shoe I was able to wear after surgery...
Cortisone and comfortable footwear got me through the week at Disney World. I was so pleased when the five and six-year-olds complained of being tired long before I felt tired. Yay, Grandma Shari! LOL.
The same day that I got my cortisone injections, I made an appt. for a surgery consultation with Dr. Yu as soon as I was back from WDW. The catalyst for ending my procrastination was our upcoming move to West Virginia. The timing just seemed perfect. I could get all of my packing and unpacking done, then have surgery and rest for a while. I knew I had one of the best surgeons and I didn't want to go to a new place needing foot surgery. So in those first few weeks while John was needing to devote all his time and energy to his new Honda store, I decided to have the surgery in Nashville and stay with a friend for the initial recovery. That turned out to be a wiser decision than I could have imagined. My friend was a Godsend to me. I could write a whole post on what a great caregiver and friend she was. I told her she struck the perfect balance between being attentive and nurturing (she anticipated every need I might have and made me so comfortable in her home), and yet never hovering over me. I had plenty of solitude (which I enjoyed) and plenty of attention (which I enjoyed). But I also told her I would not brag too much about what a great caregiver she is because she obviously doesn't want to go into business as a caregiver.
I had surgery on March 6. We arrived at Baptist Ambulatory Surgical Center at 6:00 am. I didn't feel too nervous. But my blood pressure was a little higher than normal for me, so maybe I was. Being the Facebook junkie I am, I was taking pictures with my phone while awaiting the procedure. After asking me if I still wanted surgery on both feet, the nurse wrote "yes" on each.
My friend Connie teases me that the anesthesiologist had to wait for me to finish giving the nurse my sangria recipe before he could explain that I would feel the propophol as it went in through the IV. That's why I had to ask what I was feeling. I didn't shut up soon enough for him to tell me in advance.
I was alert enough to immediately ask for my phone so I could take pictures following surgery. This is what my post-op feet looked like...
The first actual pain I felt was when I hobbled into my friend's house after surgery. We had to make two stops on the way home; to pick up my prescription for pain and also for a couple of pillows I wanted at Bed Bath and Beyond. I had forgotten to bring my pillows from home and my neck is still not completely back to normal after frozen shoulder. I wanted to make sure I didn't develop neck problems recovering from foot surgery. But by the time we got home, whatever pain relief I had left over from surgery was wearing off. And I hadn't taken my first pain pill. So I got to a chair just as quickly as I could after entering the door. But within 30 minutes, I began to feel relief from the hydrocodone. And I only took 5 mg. (along with 500 mg. acetaminophen). I believe this combination is a Lortab.
Dr. Yu said to stay off my feet (except to hobble to the bathroom) for the first two days. I assumed Day One was the day of surgery. Then, on the third day, he wanted me to start moving around more. He explained that I could not do any damage to my feet. But I could cause swelling if I tried to do too much too soon. And while there is no way to completely avoid swelling after surgery, it could affect how well the incision healed (cosmetically) if I caused a lot of swelling. He said the surgery went well and I should only need pain meds for the first couple of days. He said that the nerves would be sent to pathology to confirm they were damaged. Then he assured me that he had never removed a nerve that had not turned out to be damaged. Prior to surgery, that had been the only concern I'd had; that he wouldn't get the nerve that was causing the problem. I didn't want to be his one exception. So I was very relieved when the nurse told me a week later that the pathology results were positive for Morton's neuroma in both.
I took my pain pills every four hours the first two days and was amazed how little pain I experienced. I was uncomfortable, and walking was definitely a challenge (if you can call it walking). You feel like Frankenstein at first. Obviously, it was more challenging because I had surgery on both feet simultaneously. But never at any time in my recovery have I regretted doing both feet. I have been so glad I made that decision. I hobbled around on my heels and on the sides of my feet better than I imagined I would. And because my doctor said I wouldn't need pain pills by the third day, I attempted to stop taking them. I have a mental condition I call model patient syndrome. Just like I was obsessed with getting A's in college, I was determined to be a star patient and not fall short of the goal. I did so well all day that Thursday (Day One being Tuesday) that I decided not to even take a pain pill that night. My friend suggested that I take it even though I was not in pain and was feeling sleepy without it. I told her I really would take it if I needed it. But I fell asleep without it. I later realized it wasn't the best decision and was motivated by my model patient syndrome. Although I can't say I was in a lot of pain during the night, I did not sleep as soundly. I had a harder time getting comfortable (because you can't really use your feet to position your body). And there was more discomfort involved when I did have to hobble to the bathroom. It would have made more sense to take it.
When my friend came in to check on me Friday morning and saw the pill still laying on my bed table, she shook her head and said, "You're hard headed." John calls me Hard Head sometimes (playfully). And I don't think of myself this way. But all through frozen shoulder, I tried to be brave and not take pain pills except when I could not bear the pain. For some reason, I have a need to prove to myself that I'm not a baby. I imagine that the people around me think I'm exaggerating my pain. I'm not sure why. Perhaps it's the way I grew up.
So I decided to stay ahead of the pain a little bit longer, regardless of what the doctor's expectations were. I was able to take them six to seven hours apart, but I took them on schedule for the fourth and fifth days. It was a good decision and one I recommend to others. If for no other reason, the pain pills made me more comfortable as I got up and down, spent more time on my feet, and ensured a good night's rest. I continued taking them before bed as needed for another week.
I did not venture out of the house until the seventh day. And when I did go out, a friend picked me up and took me to lunch. I was feeling so good that I decided to walk into Victoria's Secret and pick up some lotion I like. That night I could tell I had walked more. My feet were quite sore. But I wouldn't call it pain. I could tell they were a little bit swollen by the way they felt. They didn't look so swollen, but the bandages felt just a little bit snugger. Not tight. Just a little snug. I never unwrapped my feet until my stitches came out. So I never saw my incisions during this time.
Bathing was another challenge, but not as hard as I anticipated. I like to soak in the tub. So what I did was step into a dry bathtub, sit down and hang my feet over the side. Then I ran the water. My friend had a great hand held shower head. I just had to remember to take it down before running the water. I soaked, cleaned up and washed my hair all by myself with no problem. When I was done, I let the water out, then put the bath mat inside the tub, stood up (weight on my heels), stepped out and dried off. It went smoothly every time. And it was refreshing. But it did use up a lot of energy.
Except when I was up and moving, I kept my feet propped up at all times. Sitting in restaurants, I propped my feet up on a chair or in the booth. Sitting at the kitchen table, I propped my feet up on another chair. I even slept with my feet elevated on a large pillow. I was comfortable that way. It wasn't a problem.
I went out a little bit every day the second week. I went to lunch Monday and Tuesday. I was able to keep my scheduled appointment for hair cut and color Tuesday afternoon. I went out to dinner with friends Wednesday night. My friend and I went for a massage Thursday afternoon. I went to get my stitches out Friday morning. But I cannot imagine doing any more than I did. Being taken to lunch and keeping appointments for pampering are much different from returning to work. I would not be ready to go back to a job yet. And I'm thankful that I don't have to.
I had the most foot discomfort (mild pain) on Saturday night and Wednesday night (which would have been Day Six and Day Nine). I think it was from a little swelling. We had to wait in the bar for our table at Carabba's Wednesday night and I tried to sit at the bar without having my feet up. I was immediately uncomfortable. Thankfully, one of my friends offered her lap. And I accepted the invitation. I then put my feet up in the booth once we were seated.
There were times I could feel my incisions and other times I just felt like the bottoms of my feet were severely bruised, sore and tender. Today, which is Day 15, my feet don't even feel sore unless I'm on them. I am still not putting pressure on the balls of my feet. But I am not having to avoid letting them touch the ground like I first was. They are not as sensitive. Some patients report numbness and an inability to wiggle their toes for a while. I am not aware of any numbness in my foot or between my toes at all. And I could wiggle my toes the very day of surgery. I stretch and wiggle them a lot to increase circulation.
I have had a variety of sensations and minor pains in the ball of my foot since surgery. Most of them are spontaneous and short in duration. But my first thought is always: Is this normal or have I done something wrong? But I found a blog by another MN surgical patient with many comments and was reassured that everything I felt was normal and common. Even though I'm doing so well, my feet have suffered an invasive trauma. Tissue and nerves have been "messed with" in the process of getting to the damaged nerve. There has been cutting and sewing and manipulating. So everything inside is disturbed and needing time to heal. But there were many successful outcomes shared. And I felt very encouraged that I'd made the right decision to have the surgery. I also read about patients taking stronger pain medication and having a hard time walking; needing crutches or canes (with only one foot affected). I know every surgery and every person is different in its recovery process. The surgeon makes a difference. The health of the patient makes a difference. The location and size of the neuroma makes a difference. Caregiving makes a difference. Following instructions makes a difference. And I have tried to follow my doctor's instructions to the letter.
I was a little surprised when the nurse removed my bandages to take out my stitches. Because my pain wasn't bad, I thought maybe the incisions weren't very big. It looked worse than it felt. But she said the incisions looked great and I was healing well. She said the biggest pitfall for people who come through it as well as I have so far is that they tend to overdo. She urged me to give my feet lots of rest for a full four weeks, no matter how good I felt. She said I could try wearing shoes any time, as long as they were comfortable. And that my feet would let me know what shoes to avoid. One stitch had some skin grown over it and removing it involved a little gentle digging with a tweezer. It hurt, but wasn't any big deal. And it was only a minute or two. It was kind of like a stubborn splinter. The other ones came out with no problem and only stung a little. I did take a pain pill one hour prior to my appointment, as advised, to take the edge off. But I could have done it with nothing.
When I told Julie (Dr. Yu's nurse) that I had needed the pain pills a little longer than two days, she laughed and said all the doctors tend to dismiss the recovery as nothing. She said men seem to have a harder time than women. And she always tells patients what to realistically expect. She also said every foot, every patient, every surgery and every surgeon is different. She told me I had one of the best and that patients come to him from several other surrounding states because of his reputation. That was really nice to hear.
I wore the protective boot/sandals exclusively until Sunday afternoon, Day 13. I liked wearing them because it alerted observers to injury or surgery. I felt like it would make people more aware and more cautious around me. It also served as an explanation for why I walked like Frankenstein when I looked otherwise fine. I stood a lot more than I probably should have Saturday evening because I attended a special event (my son's ordination) and was 100% in the moment (feeling no pain). I could have sat down more, but I felt fine. Only later on did I feel some repercussions of standing so much. My feet were very sore. But I think that is probably to be expected as activity is increased. I had some visible swelling when I took my socks off that night, but it wasn't alarming swelling. After a night of sleep, the swelling had gone down.
I am spending my third week trying to stay off my feet a lot; letting them rest and heal. I don't need to be anywhere or do anything. So there is no reason to push myself. I know. I'm very fortunate to be able to sit around for as long as it takes. And fortunately I am not the type of person who needs to be doing something every minute. If I have my laptop, books, programs recorded on TiVo, I'm good to go. And the most discomfort I have currently is in my back, shoulder and neck.
My sciatic nerve is bothering me. I assume it's from walking abnormally for the last two weeks, messing up the alignment of my body. And it could also be from sitting so much. And I think I have strained something in my shoulder this past week. I am freshly recovered from frozen shoulder (six months) and when you cannot use your feet to reposition yourself, you overuse other parts of your body. My left shoulder is a little sore. But it's nothing compared to the pain of frozen shoulder. Actually, I would rather go through this surgery and recovery ten times than have frozen shoulder again. That pain was excruciating day in and day out for months. And the three months of physical therapy were agony; especially in the beginning. At one point, I couldn't even talk about the pain without crying. My nerves were so shot from the chronic pain. In comparison to that, this surgery and recovery has been an absolute walk in the park.
I can get my feet wet now. But I still find it easier to sit in the tub rather than stand in the shower. I'm not supposed to soak my foot in the tub yet, so I still prop it up on the side. But I can wash the bottom and run water over my whole foot, which feels good. I cannot, however, put even gentle pressure on the ball of my foot. I have to touch it lightly or else I trigger what feels like electrical impulses running through the foot. It is still sensitive to pressure. A couple of times I have had some shooting pains. But they went away as quickly as they came. Mostly what I have is soreness and tenderness.
I have bruising. But the incisions are healing so well. Julie said to use sunscreen or cover them with bandaids when wearing sandals or going to the beach. As long as I don't expose them to too much sun, they should disappear into fine little white lines eventually. I'm going to be extra cautious, I think, and cover them with bandaids when I go to the beach in June. But even if I wound up with ugly scars, I wouldn't care. I just want relief from the neuroma pain. It will be a while before I even try on a pair of heels. Wearing high heels isn't important to me and I don't want to cause another neuroma to form by abusing my feet. I look at women in those really high heels now and want to warn them. But we all have to make our own mistakes. On the other hand, I will enjoy being able to wear a pretty pair of shoes with low to medium heels on occasion after I am fully healed. But I'm not even thinking that far ahead. I am more eager to be able to exercise than I am to wear heels.
I'm going to share some pictures at the bottom of this because you may or may not want to look at them. I thought I would make it easier for someone to skip the pictures by doing it this way. I want to stress that the incisions look more painful than they actually are. I'm sharing to show you what a successful procedure looks like and what is normal as far as bruising. Of course, I don't know at this point if I will get complete relief from pain simply because I am healing so well. I know some people do not have successful outcomes and are still in pain after having this surgery. But I do know that two nerves positive for MN were removed successfully from my feet and my recovery has been uneventful thus far. So I have every reason to expect the best results. I'll let you know if it turns out otherwise.
FYI: There are now over 200 comments on this blog post (as of May 2013). Most questions have already been asked and answered. Please remember to scan the comments under this blog post if you have specific questions.
As I write this, I am two full weeks out from having surgery on both feet to remove Morton's neuromas. Let me just say first that I am doing great. But I will start at the beginning...
I am a 52-year-old woman (almost 53), 5' 4" tall. My weight fluctuates between 128 and 133 regularly. I'm in overall good health. I've exercised regularly and faithfully for the past 21 years. I have never smoked. I did not drink alcohol at all until the age of 43. And I drink alcohol moderately/socially today (a glass of wine, a margarita, a girlie martini). I have no other health conditions other than silent reflux. And I tell you all this because my doctor told me that complications are more likely to occur in heavy smokers and patients with other health issues; like diabetes. I would venture to say that being overweight could make this surgery more difficult, as well.
I have never been a runner. (I ran the 50 yard dash in 9.7 in sixth grade. I was not born to run, you might say.) And I'm not athletic. I burn calories and increase my heart rate simply for health and weight control; usually indoors while reading or watching TV. If I have abused my feet, it has been by wearing the wrong shoes. I spent much of my life wearing very high heels on a regular basis and shoes that were cute rather than sensible. I remember shopping with my mom while I was still in my twenties and making fun of her for the shoes she was trying on. She was in her forties. And she said, "One day you will stop wearing those heels and buy comfortable shoes, too. Just wait." She was absolutely correct. Nothing is as important to me as comfort today. But the damage was already done.
A few years ago (within the last five, but I can't remember precisely when), I started to notice weird pains in the ball of my foot when walking. I have always liked to walk around barefoot in the house. It just feels comfortable to me and my mom always made us take our shoes off in the house. So it felt foreign to keep my shoes on inside as an adult. But I remember when I started to feel these shooting pains and sensations going into the third and fourth toes. The best way I can describe it is that it felt like my toes were cracking as I walked. It was a weird sensation. There was tingling and numbness (which later evolved into sharper pain). Initially, I just thought I had aging feet. But when that toe stuff started, I got worried that something more was going on. So I got online and Googled my symptoms. That was the first time I had ever heard of Morton's neuroma.
I asked friends for foot doctor recommendations and several people urged me to see Dr. James Yu at Tennessee Orthopedic Alliance in Nashville. I was also urged to skip going to a podiatrist and only consider a medical doctor who specialized in the foot. That seemed like good advice to me (no offense intended to podiatrists). I saw Dr. Yu the first time a couple of years ago. At that point, my left foot was giving me more problems than my right. And I tried my first cortisone injection. It was not as awful as I expected it to be. Not pleasant, but I was impressed with how well I endured it (since I consider myself a little wimpy when it comes to pain). I got some relief for a while. But not nearly long enough. I still wasn't ready to consider surgery, though.
Over time, the pains and weird sensations increased in both feet. I knew I was going to have the surgery at some point, but I was still trying to avoid it and put it off. When I did it, I wanted it to be at the end of winter so I would have months of sandal wearing ahead of me while my foot was still sore. Part of my procrastinating also had to do with my high deductible and forking over the cash. LOL.
This past Fall my pain increased a little more. Cold weather seemed to worsen my pain. One night during an important event, I had to sit down because the pain was so severe in both feet. And I was wearing shoes that had previously been some of my most comfortable. But for several minutes, I could not have walked to save my life. It was terrible. And all I could do was sit and massage my feet (in public). I knew that nobody comprehended the level of pain and I felt like a prematurely old lady. Since I have always made fun of myself and called myself a baby, I assume nobody thinks my pain is as bad as it is. I'm beginning to think I'm not as wimpy as I believe I am. I'm just very expressive and I talk about whatever I'm feeling (bad AND good) more than the average person. I also don't try to appear tough by downplaying anything. I tell it like it is (from my perspective, of course).
My right foot was the worst when I went back to Dr. Yu in early January because I had a trip to Disney World planned with my kids and grandkids (5 and 6). I was a little concerned about how my feet would hold up, but knew the weather would be warm enough for me to wear my most comfortable shoes and sandals. I also thought cortisone injections in both feet would probably be a good idea. This time my injections were given by Dana Duff, Dr. Yu's PA. Wow. All I can say is, if you live in Nashville and need a cortisone injection, he is your guy. I did not feel pain. I was absolutely amazed at his skill.
I suffered with frozen shoulder for about six months this past year and while in physical therapy for that, I had mentioned my neuroma issues. My therapist suggested I go to Target and buy WalkFit orthotic inserts. I did and they helped take pressure off the ball of my foot. But I could not insert them into all of my shoes. I did, however, have one pair of recently purchased shoes that were absolutely perfect for the orthotics. (Does anyone know why this word is spelled both orthotics and orthodics? I've seen it both ways and both appear to be correct spellings.)
The shoes were Merrells I found at TJ Maxx. They have a rubber sole, but not much padding (room for the inserts). They are a loose fit with a fabric upper and a zipper up the center. And they were the first shoe I was able to wear after surgery...
Cortisone and comfortable footwear got me through the week at Disney World. I was so pleased when the five and six-year-olds complained of being tired long before I felt tired. Yay, Grandma Shari! LOL.
The same day that I got my cortisone injections, I made an appt. for a surgery consultation with Dr. Yu as soon as I was back from WDW. The catalyst for ending my procrastination was our upcoming move to West Virginia. The timing just seemed perfect. I could get all of my packing and unpacking done, then have surgery and rest for a while. I knew I had one of the best surgeons and I didn't want to go to a new place needing foot surgery. So in those first few weeks while John was needing to devote all his time and energy to his new Honda store, I decided to have the surgery in Nashville and stay with a friend for the initial recovery. That turned out to be a wiser decision than I could have imagined. My friend was a Godsend to me. I could write a whole post on what a great caregiver and friend she was. I told her she struck the perfect balance between being attentive and nurturing (she anticipated every need I might have and made me so comfortable in her home), and yet never hovering over me. I had plenty of solitude (which I enjoyed) and plenty of attention (which I enjoyed). But I also told her I would not brag too much about what a great caregiver she is because she obviously doesn't want to go into business as a caregiver.
I had surgery on March 6. We arrived at Baptist Ambulatory Surgical Center at 6:00 am. I didn't feel too nervous. But my blood pressure was a little higher than normal for me, so maybe I was. Being the Facebook junkie I am, I was taking pictures with my phone while awaiting the procedure. After asking me if I still wanted surgery on both feet, the nurse wrote "yes" on each.
I was not given general anesthesia. I was given IV propophol (yes, the same drug Michael Jackson received for sedated sleep). It was great. It worked fast. The last thing I remember is feeling some discomfort in my IV and thinking maybe it was not in position. I mentioned it to the anesthesiologist and he said it was the medicine going into my vein. I don't remember anything after that until they ceased the drug and I woke up post-op 30 minutes later. The surgery itself was a breeze. And I was not in pain when I woke up.
My friend Connie teases me that the anesthesiologist had to wait for me to finish giving the nurse my sangria recipe before he could explain that I would feel the propophol as it went in through the IV. That's why I had to ask what I was feeling. I didn't shut up soon enough for him to tell me in advance.
I was alert enough to immediately ask for my phone so I could take pictures following surgery. This is what my post-op feet looked like...
The first actual pain I felt was when I hobbled into my friend's house after surgery. We had to make two stops on the way home; to pick up my prescription for pain and also for a couple of pillows I wanted at Bed Bath and Beyond. I had forgotten to bring my pillows from home and my neck is still not completely back to normal after frozen shoulder. I wanted to make sure I didn't develop neck problems recovering from foot surgery. But by the time we got home, whatever pain relief I had left over from surgery was wearing off. And I hadn't taken my first pain pill. So I got to a chair just as quickly as I could after entering the door. But within 30 minutes, I began to feel relief from the hydrocodone. And I only took 5 mg. (along with 500 mg. acetaminophen). I believe this combination is a Lortab.
Dr. Yu said to stay off my feet (except to hobble to the bathroom) for the first two days. I assumed Day One was the day of surgery. Then, on the third day, he wanted me to start moving around more. He explained that I could not do any damage to my feet. But I could cause swelling if I tried to do too much too soon. And while there is no way to completely avoid swelling after surgery, it could affect how well the incision healed (cosmetically) if I caused a lot of swelling. He said the surgery went well and I should only need pain meds for the first couple of days. He said that the nerves would be sent to pathology to confirm they were damaged. Then he assured me that he had never removed a nerve that had not turned out to be damaged. Prior to surgery, that had been the only concern I'd had; that he wouldn't get the nerve that was causing the problem. I didn't want to be his one exception. So I was very relieved when the nurse told me a week later that the pathology results were positive for Morton's neuroma in both.
I took my pain pills every four hours the first two days and was amazed how little pain I experienced. I was uncomfortable, and walking was definitely a challenge (if you can call it walking). You feel like Frankenstein at first. Obviously, it was more challenging because I had surgery on both feet simultaneously. But never at any time in my recovery have I regretted doing both feet. I have been so glad I made that decision. I hobbled around on my heels and on the sides of my feet better than I imagined I would. And because my doctor said I wouldn't need pain pills by the third day, I attempted to stop taking them. I have a mental condition I call model patient syndrome. Just like I was obsessed with getting A's in college, I was determined to be a star patient and not fall short of the goal. I did so well all day that Thursday (Day One being Tuesday) that I decided not to even take a pain pill that night. My friend suggested that I take it even though I was not in pain and was feeling sleepy without it. I told her I really would take it if I needed it. But I fell asleep without it. I later realized it wasn't the best decision and was motivated by my model patient syndrome. Although I can't say I was in a lot of pain during the night, I did not sleep as soundly. I had a harder time getting comfortable (because you can't really use your feet to position your body). And there was more discomfort involved when I did have to hobble to the bathroom. It would have made more sense to take it.
When my friend came in to check on me Friday morning and saw the pill still laying on my bed table, she shook her head and said, "You're hard headed." John calls me Hard Head sometimes (playfully). And I don't think of myself this way. But all through frozen shoulder, I tried to be brave and not take pain pills except when I could not bear the pain. For some reason, I have a need to prove to myself that I'm not a baby. I imagine that the people around me think I'm exaggerating my pain. I'm not sure why. Perhaps it's the way I grew up.
So I decided to stay ahead of the pain a little bit longer, regardless of what the doctor's expectations were. I was able to take them six to seven hours apart, but I took them on schedule for the fourth and fifth days. It was a good decision and one I recommend to others. If for no other reason, the pain pills made me more comfortable as I got up and down, spent more time on my feet, and ensured a good night's rest. I continued taking them before bed as needed for another week.
I did not venture out of the house until the seventh day. And when I did go out, a friend picked me up and took me to lunch. I was feeling so good that I decided to walk into Victoria's Secret and pick up some lotion I like. That night I could tell I had walked more. My feet were quite sore. But I wouldn't call it pain. I could tell they were a little bit swollen by the way they felt. They didn't look so swollen, but the bandages felt just a little bit snugger. Not tight. Just a little snug. I never unwrapped my feet until my stitches came out. So I never saw my incisions during this time.
Bathing was another challenge, but not as hard as I anticipated. I like to soak in the tub. So what I did was step into a dry bathtub, sit down and hang my feet over the side. Then I ran the water. My friend had a great hand held shower head. I just had to remember to take it down before running the water. I soaked, cleaned up and washed my hair all by myself with no problem. When I was done, I let the water out, then put the bath mat inside the tub, stood up (weight on my heels), stepped out and dried off. It went smoothly every time. And it was refreshing. But it did use up a lot of energy.
Except when I was up and moving, I kept my feet propped up at all times. Sitting in restaurants, I propped my feet up on a chair or in the booth. Sitting at the kitchen table, I propped my feet up on another chair. I even slept with my feet elevated on a large pillow. I was comfortable that way. It wasn't a problem.
I went out a little bit every day the second week. I went to lunch Monday and Tuesday. I was able to keep my scheduled appointment for hair cut and color Tuesday afternoon. I went out to dinner with friends Wednesday night. My friend and I went for a massage Thursday afternoon. I went to get my stitches out Friday morning. But I cannot imagine doing any more than I did. Being taken to lunch and keeping appointments for pampering are much different from returning to work. I would not be ready to go back to a job yet. And I'm thankful that I don't have to.
I had the most foot discomfort (mild pain) on Saturday night and Wednesday night (which would have been Day Six and Day Nine). I think it was from a little swelling. We had to wait in the bar for our table at Carabba's Wednesday night and I tried to sit at the bar without having my feet up. I was immediately uncomfortable. Thankfully, one of my friends offered her lap. And I accepted the invitation. I then put my feet up in the booth once we were seated.
There were times I could feel my incisions and other times I just felt like the bottoms of my feet were severely bruised, sore and tender. Today, which is Day 15, my feet don't even feel sore unless I'm on them. I am still not putting pressure on the balls of my feet. But I am not having to avoid letting them touch the ground like I first was. They are not as sensitive. Some patients report numbness and an inability to wiggle their toes for a while. I am not aware of any numbness in my foot or between my toes at all. And I could wiggle my toes the very day of surgery. I stretch and wiggle them a lot to increase circulation.
I have had a variety of sensations and minor pains in the ball of my foot since surgery. Most of them are spontaneous and short in duration. But my first thought is always: Is this normal or have I done something wrong? But I found a blog by another MN surgical patient with many comments and was reassured that everything I felt was normal and common. Even though I'm doing so well, my feet have suffered an invasive trauma. Tissue and nerves have been "messed with" in the process of getting to the damaged nerve. There has been cutting and sewing and manipulating. So everything inside is disturbed and needing time to heal. But there were many successful outcomes shared. And I felt very encouraged that I'd made the right decision to have the surgery. I also read about patients taking stronger pain medication and having a hard time walking; needing crutches or canes (with only one foot affected). I know every surgery and every person is different in its recovery process. The surgeon makes a difference. The health of the patient makes a difference. The location and size of the neuroma makes a difference. Caregiving makes a difference. Following instructions makes a difference. And I have tried to follow my doctor's instructions to the letter.
I was a little surprised when the nurse removed my bandages to take out my stitches. Because my pain wasn't bad, I thought maybe the incisions weren't very big. It looked worse than it felt. But she said the incisions looked great and I was healing well. She said the biggest pitfall for people who come through it as well as I have so far is that they tend to overdo. She urged me to give my feet lots of rest for a full four weeks, no matter how good I felt. She said I could try wearing shoes any time, as long as they were comfortable. And that my feet would let me know what shoes to avoid. One stitch had some skin grown over it and removing it involved a little gentle digging with a tweezer. It hurt, but wasn't any big deal. And it was only a minute or two. It was kind of like a stubborn splinter. The other ones came out with no problem and only stung a little. I did take a pain pill one hour prior to my appointment, as advised, to take the edge off. But I could have done it with nothing.
When I told Julie (Dr. Yu's nurse) that I had needed the pain pills a little longer than two days, she laughed and said all the doctors tend to dismiss the recovery as nothing. She said men seem to have a harder time than women. And she always tells patients what to realistically expect. She also said every foot, every patient, every surgery and every surgeon is different. She told me I had one of the best and that patients come to him from several other surrounding states because of his reputation. That was really nice to hear.
I wore the protective boot/sandals exclusively until Sunday afternoon, Day 13. I liked wearing them because it alerted observers to injury or surgery. I felt like it would make people more aware and more cautious around me. It also served as an explanation for why I walked like Frankenstein when I looked otherwise fine. I stood a lot more than I probably should have Saturday evening because I attended a special event (my son's ordination) and was 100% in the moment (feeling no pain). I could have sat down more, but I felt fine. Only later on did I feel some repercussions of standing so much. My feet were very sore. But I think that is probably to be expected as activity is increased. I had some visible swelling when I took my socks off that night, but it wasn't alarming swelling. After a night of sleep, the swelling had gone down.
I am spending my third week trying to stay off my feet a lot; letting them rest and heal. I don't need to be anywhere or do anything. So there is no reason to push myself. I know. I'm very fortunate to be able to sit around for as long as it takes. And fortunately I am not the type of person who needs to be doing something every minute. If I have my laptop, books, programs recorded on TiVo, I'm good to go. And the most discomfort I have currently is in my back, shoulder and neck.
My sciatic nerve is bothering me. I assume it's from walking abnormally for the last two weeks, messing up the alignment of my body. And it could also be from sitting so much. And I think I have strained something in my shoulder this past week. I am freshly recovered from frozen shoulder (six months) and when you cannot use your feet to reposition yourself, you overuse other parts of your body. My left shoulder is a little sore. But it's nothing compared to the pain of frozen shoulder. Actually, I would rather go through this surgery and recovery ten times than have frozen shoulder again. That pain was excruciating day in and day out for months. And the three months of physical therapy were agony; especially in the beginning. At one point, I couldn't even talk about the pain without crying. My nerves were so shot from the chronic pain. In comparison to that, this surgery and recovery has been an absolute walk in the park.
I can get my feet wet now. But I still find it easier to sit in the tub rather than stand in the shower. I'm not supposed to soak my foot in the tub yet, so I still prop it up on the side. But I can wash the bottom and run water over my whole foot, which feels good. I cannot, however, put even gentle pressure on the ball of my foot. I have to touch it lightly or else I trigger what feels like electrical impulses running through the foot. It is still sensitive to pressure. A couple of times I have had some shooting pains. But they went away as quickly as they came. Mostly what I have is soreness and tenderness.
I have bruising. But the incisions are healing so well. Julie said to use sunscreen or cover them with bandaids when wearing sandals or going to the beach. As long as I don't expose them to too much sun, they should disappear into fine little white lines eventually. I'm going to be extra cautious, I think, and cover them with bandaids when I go to the beach in June. But even if I wound up with ugly scars, I wouldn't care. I just want relief from the neuroma pain. It will be a while before I even try on a pair of heels. Wearing high heels isn't important to me and I don't want to cause another neuroma to form by abusing my feet. I look at women in those really high heels now and want to warn them. But we all have to make our own mistakes. On the other hand, I will enjoy being able to wear a pretty pair of shoes with low to medium heels on occasion after I am fully healed. But I'm not even thinking that far ahead. I am more eager to be able to exercise than I am to wear heels.
I'm going to share some pictures at the bottom of this because you may or may not want to look at them. I thought I would make it easier for someone to skip the pictures by doing it this way. I want to stress that the incisions look more painful than they actually are. I'm sharing to show you what a successful procedure looks like and what is normal as far as bruising. Of course, I don't know at this point if I will get complete relief from pain simply because I am healing so well. I know some people do not have successful outcomes and are still in pain after having this surgery. But I do know that two nerves positive for MN were removed successfully from my feet and my recovery has been uneventful thus far. So I have every reason to expect the best results. I'll let you know if it turns out otherwise.
I'm looking forward to a much needed pedicure and some pretty polish on those toes.
Comments
This is a great story and sound just like my recovery, only difference I went back to work after 3 weeks and think it was too soon. I am around 10 weeks post op and stll feel a little pebble like feeling in the ball of my foot. I too had some electric like feelings but they are fading.
I saw my surgeon yesterday as I have a plantar plate tear and another neuroma in my right foot entailing 6 weeks in a boot. I feel that this time may force me this time to stay off my feet.
Thanks again for documenting your progress as I now dont care what people think I should be doing. I will do as I am told and need to do.
Cheers
Vicky
I have been very encouraged by your journey and really enjoy reading your blog!
Thanks a ton and God Bless!!
Natalie
Keep in touch and let me know how you're doing!
Suzie
Suzie, thanks for your comment and I wish you well in your surgery and recovery. I'm so glad you found my story helpful. I am doing great. I do not have any pain like the neuroma before surgery in either foot. I still have minor swelling at times and soreness when I'm on my feet for a long time. But it's more of a normal foot ache from overuse. It is not sharp pain. I even walked in low heeled sandals last week without any pain in the balls of my feet. I still have some soreness in my shoulder and don't have full range of motion without discomfort, but frozen shoulder takes a long time to fully recover from. I'm just thankful I am not in the severe pain I was in for a while! I can handle a little soreness.
I would love to hear how you're doing post-op if you feel like checking in again!
Hope you're still doing well :)
Thanks again for sharing your experience. I'm able to take it slow too. I'm working, but I'm an author so it only involves being on my laptop. My house is a mess, but oh well! My feet are more important!
I'm 41and the pain is unbearable. It seems to get worse every week and the cortisone shots last less and less. It was refreshing to read you story and see your pictures. (The scars scare me) reality hit home fast.
Thank you!
Jennifer
http://sharihowerton.blogspot.com/2012/10/seven-months-post-op-mortons-neuroma.html
I definitely recommend you see a foot specialist/surgeon and not a podiatrist if you elect to have surgery. I'm sure your podiatrist is a good doctor. And he might be very experienced at the surgery. But if someone is going to cut on me, it's going to be the very highest level of expertise I can find. LOL.
From looking at your pictures, I'm thinking you did not have a walking boot, at least not the kind with the rocking heel like I have. After talking to my nurse, we think the boot is causing me pain. It's the only time I have this severe pulling senstation. I think it's actually causing what it was supposed to avoid, me bending my ankle. She said try the post-op shoe, which I'm trying to do but I'm a little chicken to put my weight on it. It's tender but I don't have that pulling. Just wondered if you or anyone had any times about the boot. I'm supposed to go in tomorrow if it's not better. Thanks.
My first shoe was a Merrell that I could insert my orthotics into. It takes months for your foot to stop swelling. Mine still swell a little bit occasionally. But I can wear almost any shoes I want to now. When my feet bothered me, I just tried to get off them and let them rest.
30th of November since I had both of my feet operated on, The nueroma was between my 2nd and 3rd toe's. I don't have any pain to speak of but I still have swelling more so in my left foot but still in the right also. It is in between the ball and the toes. I was up and on them quite quick do to my circumstances and the doctor said everything was looking good. My question is how long did you notice the swelling which still makes me walk on my heel and the side of my foot. Thanks Randy
Randy, my surgery was eight months ago and I still notice my feet swell a little bit sometimes if I've been on them a lot. It is much less now than it was even two months ago. But this is a very gradual recovery. I'm glad I posted updates numerous times on my blog. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't be able to remember the details well enough to answer specific questions. You can search my blog for those updates by entering key words in the search bar (upper left hand corner of the blog). Just enter neuroma update and months or weeks. You will quickly be able to see different stages of my progress that way. It seems to me that I noticed a major improvement with swelling after about three months and again at six months. But I would have to check back on my own updates to say for sure! It's been eight months now and my feet are doing really well. But I read that it can take up to twelve months for them to feel completely "back to normal" after surgery. Cindy is right; rest your feet as much as you can when they swell or get sore. That really helps. Also, I think it's a little more challenging when you've had both feet done as opposed to just one. Hang in there!
OK, so yesterday I stayed down with my leg propped up and was pretty much pain free. This morning while first getting out of bed, I leaned over to put on my surgical sandal and experienced a very sharp pain in the bottom of the foot, probably from the stretching motion. Now I'm back in the easy chair, foot up with pillows and iced. I am only taking 3 Ibuprofen tablets, 4 times daily which seem to work - so far. I have crutches on hand but think they may be more useful later this week.
I am very anxious to see how my recovery goes over the next couple of months. Based on that, I will try to figure out what to do about the neuroma(s) in my right foot that has bothered me off and on for the last15 years.
Thanks again for your comments and those from others that are sharing here.
Just over the past week I have started noticing a little lumpy feeling in the ball of each foot now and then. Mostly when I am on my feet a lot, exercising or wearing low heels (which are not painful now). The bumpy feeling is not painful or even uncomfortable. It's just different. My guess is that scar tissue may be trying to form around the affected area. So I have been trying to massage the balls of my feet daily to break it up and I do notice some improvement. Problem is, when I don't notice the feeling, I forgot to massage my feet. :)
I hear you! 8 weeks going on 9 for me and I get what you are saying. I have noticed, however, that I can put my foot all the way down now. Still not normal, but definitely better. I'm back to my aerobics tape now and it feels great. Low impact, but a fast pace and I have no trouble keeping up now. Things are getting better! :)
I'm on Day 4 and wondering whether to take my bandages off today. So far with the pain meds I've not had any pain issues at all. I can feel a little tugging around the incision area occasionally but so far (touch wood) I am really pleased to have had the op. I've had my foot up a lot of the time and my Fiance is being wonderful, looking after me (btw, definitely have someone after the anaesthetic - I passed out on the way to the bathroom in the middle of the night, he was so worried, bless him)!
So, looking positively into the future - it'll be so nice to be able to wander around the city again, knowing I wont have to worry about the pain :)
Had unsuccessful urgent 2009 when surgeon did not remove nerve pain continued.
Now on day 6 of surgery again,better surgeon I'm led to believe. I'm keeping my fingers crossed it works this time.
Has been really inspiring reading everyone's posts. My foot a little sore nit agony, I am able to be mobile but get easily exhausted finding pain on right hand side if foot away from incision but all bruised. Been given crutches help a little.
My bandage fell off last night so able to see incision on foot very similar to pics above.
Was planning on taking 6 weeks off work to I've my foot rest but already feeling guilty for this length if time as I am able to walk about. Just going to play it by ear. Know I need to rest it more but I'm a bad patient, so independent.
Any advice from people how to prevent another one of these, I have no idea why I got first place. I have an extremely high arch and broad feet. Don't think really wore narrow shoes but do like my heels on nights out.
Anyway good luck to any one else getting surgery and thanks again for sharing x
Kerry
I like comfortable shoes and heels are not important to me either. But it's nice to know I can occasionally wear them for a special event without being in pain now. I still wouldn't wear them often because heels are probably one of the reasons I got neuromas in the first place. I used to wear them all the time. My feet feel better than they have in years and I go days without even thinking about my feet now. But when I do, I always think about how glad I am that I had the surgery and had them both done at the same time. It's been ten months now since my surgery and my feet feel great. The scars have also continued to fade. Happy New Year to you too! And please do check back!
I am encouraged by your continued, slow recovery. You sound EXACTLY like me, always healthy and on the go...so you can imagine how impatient I am with the recovery time. I've been through two spinal fusions (secondfusion.blogspot.com) and never thought the one to two year recovery period would end. Your details, which are NOT TMI for me, are helping me envision what I can expect. Of course, I went back to work day three because I was bored out of my mind at home. Folks, DO NOT do this!!! Listen to your surgeon. I do not need to work, but needed to get out of the house.
I must be patient...I know the end results will be reflective of how I treat my feet during the recovery process. I will continue to follow your posts and am so glad you are taking the time to be honest with every detail. I need some encouragement right now, as my pain level has increased the past 24 hours...and I HATE Oxycodone...but also know that straight acetamenophin is NOT doing the trick to relieve the pain. I've only taken 5 Oxycodone post surgery...I, too, want to be a model patient.
Well, planning to spend the weekend with my feet up and catching up on my reading. I will check back often to your blog to see what I may expect. God Bless...you are an angel.
Thanks for your comment, Monique! Please do check back. It makes me very happy to see that my blogs are encouraging and helping other patients!
I was vasilating between a pod and an ortho and have decided on the ortho after reviewing his experience compared to the pod here locally. Making the appointment this week! I have suffered non-stop with this for the past year. It's time!!
Anonymous, your frozen shoulder experience lasted even longer than mine. From beginning to end, I endured a lot of pain for about six months and lingering less severe pain for several more months. PT was grueling and painful, but since I'd had it in the other shoulder years ago and knew that it would eventually get better, I never considered surgery. PT did not help me the first time. But it did the second time. Neither the shoulder nor the feet have been easy, but I am doing much better now. Hopefully my next "affliction" won't be any time soon. :) I hope God thinks I've had enough for a while.
Regarding frozen shoulder - my mum had three lots of cortizone injections and that worked for her shoulder - not sure if you already tried this.
I sure don't know anything about doctors in Florida, but if I were you I would Google sports medicine in your area and look for MDs who specialize in the foot and ankle. I would schedule a consultation with a couple different ones and ask how many of these surgeries they do and what the success rate is. I found my foot doctor through word of mouth. I simply asked all of my facebook friends if anyone knew of a really good foot doctor. And when several friends highly recommended the same guy, I went to him. He was in Nashville and I could have gone to someone in Murfreesboro where I was living for convenience (40 minutes of driving) but convenience is never my main priority when it comes to health issues. When I went back to have my stitches removed, Dr. Yu's nurse told me that he's so good at MN surgery, people are starting to come to him from other surrounding states. When a surgeon does a lot of the same surgeries repeatedly, they get better and better at doing them. So I would just think the more they do, they more skilled they are. But you have to feel comfortable with them. I really liked Dr. Yu. He never tried to push me toward surgery or away from it. He just explained to me why people go ahead and do it. By not having them removed, I would be accepting a lot of limitations at a relatively young age. Did I want to accept those limitations? And the answer was no. The next question was did I want to get it all over with at once or do one foot at a time. I always want to get something unpleasant behind me as quickly as possible rather than dragging it out. So I opted to be a little more awkward and uncomfortable at first so that I didn't have to go through the whole process of recovery twice. And I have never regretted that decision.
I'm glad my blog has helped you! And I know a little bit about what you went through with that shoulder. Sorry about the bone spur and the surgery. I'm glad you're better.
During the 2nd wk my toes felt like they were in ice water/extremely achy/& unbelievably uncomfortable. At my next Dr visit I said "yo, ya gotta help me, its 24-7 discomfort & I can't sleep!" (I don’t like & can’t function on the strong meds but needed something at this point). He gave me a mild valium. It helped calm the nerve endings. It didn't take away all of the pain, didn't zonk me out, but did relax me a lil bit. I was able to fully function. It made it bearable & I was able to get some rest. During this 5th week, I still have a tiny bit of the achy toes but much better & on no meds, except some advil.
I HIGHLY recommend NOT removing your bandages until your Dr visit & let them do it. I had my stitches removed 10 days after surgery. Everything looked great. I was doing what I was supposed to. That evening my hubbs thought it would be nice to get me out of the house & have dinner by the water. Just a few steps to the table but getting back into the car I felt like I stepped weird & had some stinging. Sure enough, I tore 1 open on the left ft, 2nd toe near pinky.
I have shower bags I HIGHLY recommend!! They are called LIMBO & made in Great Britain. My Dr office said they looked far & wide to find an actual shower bag that worked & did what it said it wouldn't do which was leak! & THEY DON'T! You can submerge them in the tub! The only thing with the shower bags are b/c they are so water resistant & no air gets in or out, the area that is covered starts to sweat immediately. So until I am able to get the feet wet, I just sponge bath the part of the legs, but SO worth the money for these bags.
My calves & arches have been feeling like they want to cramp b/c of the way I've been walking. I've been massaging those areas with oil or some lotion. I love ALBA products, they are organic & natural. I'm trying to bend my big toes some while massaging, hurts a lot & move/wiggle my other toes as much as they will allow me) I haven't tried a normal shoe yet, but see some of the suggestions here. Haven't driven yet for same reason. Fearful of having to hit that brake pedal. The balls of my feet feel bruised right now & driving just does not sound appealing at all yet.
Dr as of now has me using AB ointment & large bandaids on incision sites, but haven't been told I can wash/scrub the areas yet.
The Drs DEFININTELY don't tell you any more than the ???'s you ask them. So you have to be your best advocate & yes, the girl nurses give me the best & most detailed answers! This has DEFINITELY been worse than I thought it was going to be but so far have not regretted it. I researched 3 1/2 years & had 2 Drs.
Good luck everyone, thx for your posts, & hope I have been of some help. & anyone that has any help for me, it's much appreciated. Thx for letting me get it all out!
I too don't mind wearing the shoes out, b/c it DOES let people know you have something going on & anyone I am around KNOWS I like at LEAST a 2FT buffer around my tootsies!
V. Yeager
Here is the website. Hope you are close enough that they can help. Very pleased with the entire office.
http://www.footsurgicalspecialist.com/staff.html
V. Yeager
V. Yeager, thanks for sharing your experience here, too. I did not use bags on my feet. I just dangled my feet over the tub and used the hand held shower sprayer while sitting in the tub. It took a while longer than normal, but I didn't find it to be as difficult as I thought it would be.
As far as the scars being black (I think someone mentioned that), the only reason the scars look black as well as red for a while is because of the black marker they use to draw a line where the incision is going to be. I thought that black ink would never wash away. It took a long time. But it's completely gone now. I just have little white lines. Some people have a hard time seeing them at first when I point to my feet and say, "See my incisions?" By the way, I say that most often to younger women wearing those really high heels. I'm trying to help them avoid ever needing to read this blog. But I doubt many of them listen. :)
@Shari...it's so funny how things work out sometimes. We had 2 really bad hurricanes that blew through here 2 weeks apart several years back & tore my house up pretty good. I had new showers put in & the one in my bath is a walk in with a corner seat & detachable handheld. Who knew when we put that in that it would be a life saver for me! Everything is SO daunting...especially the first couple of weeks! So that helped along with those bags. Dr or no one told me to massage either, yet at least! But it just made some common sense to me to try & rub some of the knotting & tense feeling away.
I too have experienced hip pain & lower back pain from having to walk funky. I'm going out Tues. which is my next Dr appointment & afterwards go to the store & see if I can find some regular shoes I can wear. I'm trying to convince myself right now to try & take somewhat normal steps & try & bend the ball...juuuuust a little when I walk ;) lol Though, the surgical boot doesn't allow you to really bend much anyways.
Any advice on shoes? I'm looking for comfort. & I too keep warning my sister who has literally 125 pairs of heels...(some are REALLY high, she's gonna regret it! I've even been sending her pix of my feet! lol
Tale care. V. Yeager
Thank you for such an indepth share, it was great to read. Funny how similar in some ways we are; I too have disc problems in my back with sciatica and STILL have frozen right shoulder. And the pain is worse than what I've had in my back so yeah I can relate to what you say there too!
My doctor said in around two weeks I'll be getting around ok and in about 8-10 weeks is when the scarring starts and sort of swells and then subsides. Anyway, thanks so much again for having written about your experience. Regards Michele, Queensland
Your initial blog was amazing. I could have written it myself; including suffering from a sciatic problem, due to so much sitting after surgery. I am 13 days after surgery for a MN, a bunionectomy and also having a hammer toe repaired on my left foot. My doctor told me 6-12 weeks for recovery. I guess that I thought that he was exagerating. After reading all the posts of others, I guess my recovery may be longer that I anticipated realistically. I have been instructed that I can place no weight on my foot and that it must be elevated 24-7. I cannot have it hanging down any longer that 5 minutes in any given hour, just long enough to use the restroom. I go back to the doctor on the 21st. I am very anxious to see what my next instructions are. I came home from the surgery in a boot very similar to your's, but 2 days after surgery was given a large, non-flex boot that goes up to my knee... Such a wide variation of recovery and post-op directions... Thanks for sharing your story. Brenda H
Linda, I also have had a great outcome to my surgery, but your experience is hard for me to imagine. I'm so happy for you that you've had such an amazing recovery, but I do want to point out -- for the sake of other patients -- that driving the day after surgery is not something anyone should expect to do. There is no way I could have done anything but sit with my feet elevated and take pain pills the day after surgery. And I think that is the experience of most. I am assuming you must have had surgery on the left foot if you were driving that soon. For anyone who has surgery on their right foot or both, this would be extremely ill-advised.
I wanted to share my positive outcome for the same reason as you; so many people post horror stories on the internet and I wanted MN sufferers to be reassured that there are many successful surgeries. I was walking on my treadmill for an hour yesterday and telling my husband how great it is to be able to walk without pain. I endured those neuromas for longer than I should have because I was so apprehensive about having surgery.
I would ask how many neuroma surgeries he/she has performed and the rate of success/complications. I would ask what the usual recovery is like. I asked about stump neuromas after reading about them and my surgeon explained that they always form, but where the surgeon places the cut end of the nerve is key to not feeling it. (It's supposed to be embedded in the muscle, I think.) My surgeon was very up front that he couldn't guarantee I'd never have another one or I wouldn't have a complication. And he didn't try to influence my decision to have surgery or not have surgery. But he said that the people who are more likely to have complications have other health issues. And since I was healthy and still relatively young, he didn't expect me to have any and I didn't. I followed his instructions to the letter. And the only thing I thought after having it is that he tended to downplay the recovery a little bit more than I would after having it. He made it sound like I would be fully recovered in two months. I wasn't. I still have minor swelling and achy feet for quite a while (off and on). And I wouldn't have described myself as having normal feet for many more months. He acted like I wouldn't need pain pills for more than a day or two. I did need them longer. His nurse pointed out that he has only done the surgery, he hasn't had the surgery. So she thought he tended to make light of the recovery. She was the one who urged me not to overdo and to give my feet lots of rest.
Thank you so much for answering a nervous Nelly! I started my list to take with me. One thing I have heard is that if they ask you to sign a 'privacy agreement' run from that doctor. Not sure what that is all about...What a wonderful blog this is for those of us who are dealing with this painful condition. :D
Thnx for the advice on the shoes. I've had such a busy week & a half! I did find shoes actually,thankfully (after I read your helpful advice!) 2 pair!(We don't wear shoes in the house, so I needed a 2nd pair). They are box toe sneakers. Very flexible all over the shoes (you need to put your fingers in the upper& side to make sure they are flexible enough & wide enough. Some look like they are flexible but you put your hand up in there & they weren't very flexible at all. They are also light as air, which helps. I also got an xtra 1/2 size bigger than normal, for Xtra toe room. So far, my feet in both niether hurt nor bother me no more than they already do, they actually feel a little better when I wear them. But still for only when I have to be up on my feet, otherwise, shoes off....feet elevated!
One pair is K-swiss Tubes (outside pair) & the other pair Saucony, shadow genesis(house pair). Good arch support. Only downside is...all of these shoes have neon on them!!! lol My outside pair Are a black/grey with a touch of neon pink. Not too bad, but the house pair are all over neon yellow, with a hint of neon blue accents! I don't even care! Comfort is key & they aren't that bad looking. I am an 80's child, so it's like deja-vu.
I started PT this week & am driving on my own for the 1st time 6 1/2 weeks from surgery. I am now at my 7 week mark. The PT is difficult & has made the zaps come back a bit but that's the nerves that are being stimulated trying to reconnect & re-route. I have a tens unit (stim machine) at home, so this is very helpful. I am also daily massaging & my PT told me to use a golf ball & roll it under my foot. This helps to massage & also helps to spread those bones & get in between there in the ball of the foot. She also said rubbing the areas, & toes helps stimulation & helps with getting some feeling back on the areas that are numb. I think a lot of your recovery depends on how hard you work at your PT at home. My girlfriend who had 4 removed (2 each foot) like I did says that when she is on her feet for a long period of time, still has some swelling. 3 years later! This may not be the cast for everyone. But it's somethig to think about. It's a LONG term commitment & no short, easy fixes.
*hugs for everyone* & prayers for healing!!
V. Yeager
:)) V. Yeager
Have a nice weekend everyone.
Thanks
D
My biggest learning and mistake (from reading this blog) is that HEALING TAKES TIME and YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT TIME! I had VERY unrealistic expectations after surgery…went back to work 7 days post op, went to the gym (upper body only) on day 9 and 11, tried to walk on day 7, etc. After my doc saw me on day 10, he could tell I was pushing it and ordered me to 7 MORE days of strict "toes above noes"…which helped a lot. Again, at 3 weeks out now and after reading this, I've realized that I'm NOT going to be running any marathons any time soon, as well as realized that what I'm experiencing now (e.g. swelling, occasional electrical impulses in the toes and foot, extreme tenderness and soreness at the ball of my foot) is all normal and will subside eventually…and actually, is getting better every week. At week 3, I'm actually able to walk a bit without crutches (particularly around the house) and am able to stand more and more each day…and again, that's with two nueromas removed from my right foot.
So…thanks for this blog! This and the one from Chris Freeland seem to be the only ones out there that aren't extremely negative or overly unrealistic in recovery time (I've read some that said they were fully recovered and running again within 3-8 weeks…I wish!). I'll continue to take it easy…continue to "listen" to my foot…continue to realize that what I'm experiencing in pain, swelling and electrical "zingers" in my foot is all part of the healing process…as well as continue to pray for a healthy recovery for me and others who have had this surgery ;) Again…thank you!
And to Anonymous,,, I read all those horror stories too, and I was really scared to have this surgery, but as active as I have always been, could not bear living with these MN any longer!! By the way,,,dont think I ever told my age!! I am 63 and don't intend to let this stop me from getting back to my active lifestyle!!
I have been reading your blog and want to thank you. I am set to have mn surgery feb 18th and have been scared out of my mind. I too have read the horror stories and that is what has me spooked. I had a question for you did your dr implant your nerve endings into a muscle or fatty part of your foot away from weight baring areas? By doing this that is how mydr says you prevent stump neuromas. Also I know you are a true believer in christ as am I and I really would appreciate for you to say a prayer for a successful surgery and outcome.
In answer to the questions, my doctor didn't explain where he would tuck the cut nerve. He just said the placement was key to avoiding pain from stump neuroma. I trusted him to know where that placement would be.
Nancy, it sounds to me like your bandages are too tight if you have that much numbness. You are probably having a lot of swelling and don't have enough room. The bandages may be cutting off circulation. You should not be on your feet. You need to be elevating them to help with the swelling.
I was the one asking for prayer and about implanting the nerve endings, sorry I am new at this computer stuff I could only figure out hiw ti send it with no name lol. But my name is Tayna thx again for your response and your prayers...
It's been a couple of weeks. I had started the 1st week of PT. Well, that weekend a couple of my incisions started bubbling & opening. I called the Dr & he wanted to see me the very next day. Examined me & took samples of all 4 incisions to make sure there was no infection. I also have a blood disorder that makes me anemic & low potassium which makes healing a little slower. So even though my feet looked good & the incisions were looking good, the PT was too much, too soon. I had day 7 PT today & she thinks now I should be walking better, (when I started PT I was ahead??). But it's hard on days that I am active or they give me a lot to do plus the PT at home, then I wake up & they feel briused again & so I walk funny & my Therapist doesn't like it if I walk that way. So, I go by what my Dr told me & he said that this is MY recovery & *I* do what *I* feel my feet can do. It's important for you to know your own body. I feel a little stalled out right now, but keeping at it.
On another note...I asked my Dr for help. I plan on going to several races during speedweeks in Daytona, for NASCAR. For those of you who do not know about that, it is a LOOOOOOOOOOOOT of walking!!!! An insane amount. I KNOW I can't do that much, & for several days. (I wasn't going to go but my sister was going to surprise me with tix she already purchased....non refundable tix)...I told my Dr about it....he quickly said, "NO, I don't want you doing that much walking". He signed the papers for a temporary handicap placard, which I took to the DMV & in FL it cost $15. (at the track they make you park way across the road at the mall & it's far just to get TO the track...let alone walking around the track or to the seats). I thought getting a placard would be a lot harder or take more time to get, but it wasn't. And he gave me an RX for a wheelchair or scooter. So I am currently looking into those. I feel so relieved that I will not have to try & walk so much & that I have these 2 very important items to lean on. So, for those who are going into the surgery....especially for ppl like me, who had 4 MN's, both feet done at the same time... there's options out there to help you in the beginning. Just ask your Dr. I wish I had the temporary placard set up when I 1st had the surgery. I am not ashamed to use it b/c I know what I have is genuine. I am in pain & my feet swell very quickly. I also have fibromyalgia & not sure how much more that may or may not impact my recovery/pain/inflammation.
This Fri will be 9 weeks & I am giving it all the time it needs. Patience is key & of course, roomy shoes!!!
Prayers for all of us healing & for those who's surgeries are upcoming.
Hi everyone and thanks so much for all shares.Having surgery for mn bilateral( I hope) in France Feb 15th through surgical tourism It'a a private facility and have been assured that dr is specialist in foot surgery. Can't wait to get rid of this pain and be able to walk. Started after spending 6 days walking Hadrian's Wall 86 miles in boots that were too small and carrying a pack that was too heavy, have worn Birks all my life so was unprepared for this to happen..^^ thought my good behaviour had earned me a pass on foot problems...anyway very helpful to read all shares and I am hopeful for success, didn't think the recovery would be so long so I am glad to know that this will be normal and grateful that I don't have to work so can rest as this seems to be a very important aspect of recovery, was an orthopaedic nurse in OR for years but only did 'big surgery' didn't pay much attention to the small stuff, wish I had now lol! thanks again to all
I haven't even stepped on my foot since the procedure and I am not ready to. For those considering the MN surgery (one foot at a time) rent the "knee cruiser"!
Yesterday was Day 20 and I felt I had really passed a milestone in being able to walk around with only discomfort, not pain. I know it will be several more weeks before I can matriculate in a real shoe, but I do feel like I'm finally going in the right direction!
I live in Queensland Australia and had MN surgery on my left foot 6 days ago. I was operated on by a specialist Orthopaedic surgeon. Before surgery he checked my foot and discussed when I would be allowed back at work which entails 8 hr shifts on my feet. He advised he would give me a 4 week sick certificate. I woke up after surgery to see a very heavily bandaged foot.
The nurses told me the dr said I could weight bear on my foot so was not given any walking aids. Instructions given were to debulk my bandages at 2 days, take pain medication as required and have sutures removed in 10 days
My foot was very swollen and sore for the first two days and was taking every 4 hours panadeine forte. I had no idea I had to rest my foot so much as was given no guidance by dr. After two days removed bandages and looked at stitches, which very similar to pictures shown. I walk on the heel of my foot, and try to elevate when I can, but find I have quite a bit of swelling and soreness in my right leg as well, and want to know if that is usual. On Friday when I go to the dr's I will be asking a lot of questions.
Like others, if I overdo it I do get swelling back in my foot and pain. I am concerned I have a dr that has also played down the recovery, and feel like a woosy when I complain to my family that my foot still hurts.
Good luck to everyone with their recovery and will give an update after my dr's appointment on Friday
-Danielle
-Danielle
-Danielle
I did not have PT after my surgery, but I did have PT for frozen shoulder and although it wasn't pleasant, it was effective. I am approaching the one year anniversary of my surgery on March 6 and I hardly even think about my feet these days, which is WONDERFUL! But I do still occasionally feel the little zingers if I press on certain spots and occasionally feel a little bumpiness in a certain spot of my toe pad area. At this point, though, it's just a reminder that I've had a surgery. It's never painful or even uncomfortable. And I can do anything I want to do without pain! I still avoid high heels, though. I've gotten used to wearing comfy shoes and I don't want to cause new damage to my feet. I tried a really cute pair of high heeled shoes on this week at TJ Maxx and was so tempted to buy them because they were not uncomfortable. But I didn't because I want to keep my feet in the shape they are in. The thought of causing a new neuroma to form by wearing shoes that put pressure on the balls of my feet seems so unwise to me at this point. They make a lot of cute shoes that are not so hard on the feet! Why risk it?
After much consideration, I have decided to take another week off of work (week 3). I was feeling great at about day 13 or 14, so I decided to go out shopping with sneakers on! BIG mistake! I am now back on bed rest. I am hoping another week of rest will allow me to go back to work and see my kiddos (I teach third grade). While I miss working, my students deserve a teacher who is 100% focused on them and not on foot pain.
Hope this helps and Good Luck!
Sheryl
i keep reading about doing physical therapy- when should this start?
i dont have pain when i sit down with d\feet up, but no way in hell can i put weight on ball of my foot. it is swollen like a pumpkin and behind the toes so much they cant bend. feels weird and tight with all kinds of electric shocks
i tried to stay off my foot for the past 12 days, but have been hobbling on my heel here and there around the house- hopefully, i did not do any prolonging of recovery by this!
getting my stitches out in a few days, and am in the stage where i feel like i will never walk again and other depressing thoughts
tips on physical therapy? and anyone have weird misplaced shocks? when i touch the top of my ankle, it sends strong shocks down through my toes! help anbody? :)
Mara, I did not have PT for either of my feet. But I have done lots of wiggling and massaging on my own as needed. Based on my experience, you have not described anything unusual. All the weird shocks and sensations we experience are a result of nerves being cut. Each foot will be unique, but the descriptions are all similar. You will walk again and have normal feet in time. Just be patient. You didn't do damage by giving your feet extra rest. I can assure you of that. Rest is good. And you will notice when you do too much for months. But the swelling and soreness just gradually decreases over time. But I still have some random tingly sensations now and then to remind me that I have had foot surgery. The good thing is it's nothing compared to the pain I DON'T HAVE. :)
I meant i was worried i did some damage by walking around the house in the first 2 weeks, not resting
But i suppose i am being so premature with anything yet with my stiitches still in!
I am just so used to moving all the time that the whole thing is a shock for me and i am seeing the negative
But your stories are bery encouraging
I never knew there were so many people out there in th same situation!!!
It's Tayna I had my surgery for mn and bunionectomy feb 18th on right foot. My surgery was done by an ortho foot specialist. He has me on strict instructions of no wt baring for six weeks due to the bunionectomy. I hv not had any zingers as of yet and I hope I never do lol. I'm not going to lie the first week the pain was awful, but today the pain has not been to bad. Thx everyone of your post they truly hv helped me...
Hopefully next time I post I can talk about a good experience too! God Bless!
-Danielle
p.s. so thankful for this blog!
-Danielle
Hi Shari, Hi All.
I too am 12 weeks now. I'm taking it slow with recovery, because I can & my feet tell me so. My neuromas were very large. All four of them were 2cm - 3.5 cm big. Those exercises going up on the toes to rocking back on the heels with toes pointed upwards are very valuable. I do them in 3 sets of ten. The toe crunches are also good to do...even though they hurt like crazy!!! Get a hand towel & put in on the floor (prefferably tile or wood...carpet is hard!)& scrunch it up with your toes, pulling the towel towards you as much as you can ( I get about half the towel under my toes, then I push it back out & start again). Start with trying to do them for 30seconds if that's all you can do. My PT said work the minutes on upwards, next time try 1 minute, then 2 minutes. I do certain sets or numbers for a few days or a week & then I push myself to see if my feet will handle it. I can't pick up marbles just yet. I'm on my treadmill for .25 miles on 1.2 mph. Working on that heel to toe strike, properly. I choose to take it more easy when I go out to the store or to have fun & work on my PT at home. When I go out I do not push myself by walking around everywhere so I'm not ridiculously sore. The massaging DOES help, do it....every day! & ICE! I ice every night religiously.
When I wake up or sit for awhile my toes get stiff, so at first it takes several steps or toe curls to get them feeling better. I still have some discomfort when sleeping but not nearly as much. I also can't be on my feet for extended periods yet or standing in one place for too long. Or else I start that penguin waddle walk. I too am a bit clumsy & off balance still. I'm working on that when I stretch. I do a calf stretch on the end of my couch or bed & then do a thigh stretch (grabbing my foot behind me)to where I balance on one foot for 20 seconds. I do that 3 times. All of these helpful things I got from PT, which my Dr started me at 6 weeks....if that helps anyone with a time frame. For everyone surgery is unique & recovery is different. I say again 'paitence is KEY'. & ask your Dr questions...they don't tell you enough info & they make recovery seem lighter than what it is!
Happy healing all :)
Does anyone have any ideas on approx. how long it is before swelling on the ball of the foot starts to go down?
My foot is crazy swollen on the bottom, amd the ball of my foot is literally a ball it seems.
I just barely brushed it against the floor by mistake , and i thought i would faint... How will i ever walk on it?
Amd how does swelling ever go down on the bottom of the foot unless you kept it up 24/7 ....
I personally have felt that feet up & ice ice ice as much as you can...especially in the beginning weeks are the quickest ways to heal quicker & reduce swelling. @ 12 weeks I still have some jolts....when you start PT & manipulate the nerves, they awaken & are trying to re-route & reconnect...so that is what the sensations are. At week 2&3 I had to have meds to help relax the nerves because they were so raw & uncomfortable in the top part of the toes/foot. I was about going out of my mind.
@Mara...I thought the same thing. I had such trouble for the first 4-5 weeks it seemed. I was like "how the HECK am I ever supposed to walk again?!?!?!" I was REALLY good about resting a LOT for several weeks. I had pretty good swelling into week 5 & 6. Right now (12 weeks)they are still a bit swollen & sore more if I am on them for awhile. I guess it depends on the surgery, how big the neuromas were & even how much a person weighs I would imagine will affect the swelling. Mine were very large...all 4 of them. A girlfriend of mine told me that she had the exact same surgery as me & 3 years later she still swells when she is on her feet for a long time. Will we have that??? I have no idea...but I will say this....When I got pregnant, my feet went up a 1/2 inch & now, after this surgery, I think I will have to get shoes that are 1/2 inch bigger as well for comfort. You are but only 2 weeks in...you definitely need to give it time & patience. I still had my major wrapping on my feet until week 4 & didn't start to massage & manipulate my feet until week 5 & then he gave me the ok for PT in week 6... it's baby steps with everything. It's been rough but I haven't regretted it yet, some days are harder than others, but I believe coming in time, it will be worth it. This blog from week 4 when I first logged in was SO helpful from what I've been feeling to what types of shoes to buy & what questions to ask my Dr. Hang in there!
....also just FYI...my Dr & my PT both reassured me & insisted I understand that this process takes MONTHS!!! PT said mine could take up to a year to be 'normal' again. I think most Drs downplay the recovery time so you do not get discouraged. There's healing in a positve mind! I do not want to you to be non-optimistic about healing but yet not un-informed about the reality of recovery. My Dr downplayed it too, for a little while...when he figured out my questions & concerns out-witted his comments & answers! He KNEW I wanted the details ;)
There was also someone above that commented that they had trouble with the surgical boots & went with the box toed Darco's...that's what my Dr gave me too...they were VERY easy to use & for the most part comfortable & reliable.
Happy healing & blessings to you all :)
Tayna here, you said that you had to get put on meds due to your nerves being so sensitive. What was the name of the med?
I finally found an Ortho who correctly diagnosed my foot problem, The DPM claimed I had MN in both feet when an MRI showed that I really have Tendenosis a streched tendon and in only the right foot! As there are no tears only physical therapy for 8 weeks is recommended to relieve the painful symptoms. This eas yhe 5th doc I had seen to finally get a correct dx! You were definately right about getting the right doc. Cudos Shari. I am believing the physical therapy will resolve this and will be VERY careful not to cause this in the future....
This is Tayna I had surgery on feb 18th and just in the past few days I have been noticing some buzzing type feeling in my foot and in my toes...I just wondered if any of you have felt this after surgery? It doesn't hurt just feels odd...
Yes to the buzzing! I had that too.almost felt like a cell phone vi bration, but nothing was touching my foot. I have all kinds of weird feelings like tHat and i am almost 4 weeks post surgery
I do hope that walking might be an option for me in the near future, but now the bottom of my foot is so swollen, it doesnt even sit level to the ground, not that I dare try and step on it
Good luck to everyone!
This is Tayna thx for your response, glad to know the buzzing is nomal. I also had a bunionectomy so I've been a cast with no wt baring but in two weeks I will get my cast off and then a boot with partial wt baring instructions. So at that point I will be putting wt on it for the first time. I'm a bit scared because of the unkown pain if any I will have. I'm so sorry to hear your having trouble walking and I pray that we both are able to walk normally soon..
Sorry it took me a little while to get back. Been dealing with a slipped disc in my neck, very painful!
He put me on mild Diazepams. They didn't take away ALL of the sensation but it made it so it was much more bearable. I could function normal & they didn't knock me out at all.
I had my surgeons appointment yesterday. I have been finally clear to soak my feet! Wounds are FINALLY all healed! 13 1/2 weeks later! I see him again in 6 weeks! So the appointments are growing longer in between :))
FYI....he also gave me something for the scars I've never heard of before. I told him I had mederma at home & he said this stuff has been around a lot longer & is leaps & bounds better! It's called 'Blaine Scar Care, physicians formula, Gel Pads' You cut the pads to the size you need (it comes in one giant pad)& apparently with proper taking care of, you can re-use one pad for up to 3 months! & it keeps working. Then, when I need another, the pad is big enough for MANY uses! I'm going to start them tonight as it says to put it on for at least 8 hours but 12 is better. Then, it has another solution to rub on for when the pads are not on. I will keep you all posted on how this stuff does. Has anyone ever heard of this? Says no matter how old your scars are....it will get rid of them permanently.
It's gonna take time for you to walk normally. 13 weeks in, I FINALLY feel like I am making progress on that.I thought I'd NEVER get there...but slowly it's happening. Just keep doing the PT...not just at PT but at home too!
Once you can bet over the fact that you have to venture out in pubIc in Crocs, they are a good option
Makes the limp less, which in turn makes everything hurt less
So yeah for Crocs
Does anyone remember about how long it takes until the swelling at the bottom of the foot starts to go down?
I have been suffering with my MN for over a year. Up until a month ago, the pain would come and go and was manageable. The pain is so bad and I had the nerve blocks done that just irritated it even more.
My issue is that I do not do invasive surgery well. My body cannot even get a piercing without reacting negatively. I do not heal well. I have nerve issues anyway. I have had nerve damage in my back from an old surgery that should not have had anything to do with my back. It was something the doctors could not explain. I cannot EVER get an epidural. Two abdominal surgeries and I was back in the ER after the epidural was removed for a bad reaction. I have travelling nerve sensitivity that flares up occassionally and it feels like a sun burn on patches on my skin. I even recently tried to get Essure and was one of the 10% it does not work on.
I have had a bad acchilles tendon that required 3 months of PT and tennis elbow in both arms. I am petrified that something will happen and I will again be that small percentage that it does not work on or that cutting on my nerve will cause my body to rebel even worse. I want to call it off, but this is has got me down so bad I cannot go shopping. I love to exercise and I have a home business on the side that I make extra money at and requires me to stand alot.
Ugh! I am dreading this!
You have had alot of struggles with your and I understand how scared you are I fell almost two years ago, a fall down the stairs in my home. I injured both feet but right one was the worst . I tore alot of ligements and was in massive amounts of pain for nine months. Got sent to pt and with time my ligements healed but I was left with a bone that shifted and a neuroma. I was told I needed surgery because my bone would just keep shifting causing more trouble with the neuroma I was so scared that I kept puttimg it off. I was scared of being in more pain than before scared of being mangled etc...I am now for weeks out from surgery and have not been able to do any wt baring due to the bone that had to be fixed I've been in a cast with no wt baring but this friday I get cast off and into a boot with partial wt baring..I will also have to go thru more pt...In the end I finally surrendered to god and put it in his hands...My best advice is to make sure you have a good surgeon and that he feels with all the other health conditions you have going on that its not a high risk surgery ask alot of questions make sure you feel comfortable with the dr's answers ...The scriptures say that by his stripes we are healed...I will keep you in prayer....
God bless
This is Tayna and I have a question that I'm hoping one of you can answer and say its a normal part of the healing process. I had mn surgery and bunionectomy surgery both done at the same time and I'm now 4wks post op and I have had some of the odd sensations that some of you spoke about. I have some stinging in the tips of my toes and in the area of my incisions also some on bottom of my foot in between the toes where mn was removed. I have noticed some aching in all the same areas as well which is on and off, have any of you experienced this ?
I count on all of you to give feedback when I am unable to give a prompt response to a question or comment. And you haven't let me down! I apologize if I miss someone occasionally. I am sometimes at the computer when I get a question and other times not. Sometimes I forget to come back and check in! My feet are not on my mind all that much these days. But I'm so happy my blog is reassuring others because I remember my own apprehensions, questions and worries!
This is Tayna, thanks so much for your response I'm glad to know that what I'm experiencing is normal I was getting a little scared. Most of us have delt with mn for a long period of time and the pain along with the odd sensations of that. So to feel some similar sensations and achyness ect. after surgery kinda got me worried, but you have reassured me to give it more time and as long as I am following dr's instructions to the letter I should be fine. I will keep you updated. On a side note have you been watching the mini series the bible on A&E on sundays its awsome?
I have recorded every episode of The Bible but have not started watching it yet. I keep hearing mixed reviews, but I know I will eventually watch the whole thing. I don't like when artistic license is taken with the Bible. But I will watch it as a drama and not as a documentary of history. A lot of people have pointed out inconsistencies with Scripture in certain episodes. However, overall I think it's positive. I'm happy there has been such an interest and so much buzz about it! I've seen the producers interviewed, and their intentions seem very good. Glad you are enjoying it!
...& a happy 1 year anniversary to you Shari! When I first looked up this blog, it was to get answers as to IF what I was feeling was 'normal' & the posts were both reassuring & the information also helped me to be more informative in asking questions with my nurses & the surgeon.
I look forward to when I am not thinking of my feet every time I get up. I know that's coming because the healing is making good progress now that I can tell. I'm makingit through stores without buggies, standing longer, walking better, can bend my toes MUCH better. But 14 weeks out I do still have pain in the toes & where the incisions are on both feet, the area feels tight. The tops of my toes are sensitive & sometimes almost itchy/sensitive...I just keep rubbing them, icing them, & give them rest! I think I am one of the ones that the 4 MN's were HUGE & is taking a bit more time to heal...so if anyone has very large ones, my posts may talor more to you.
To the person above with all of the health issues & is very nervous about going into surgery,I 2nd what the person who responded to you said. I have a LOT of problems myself. Fibromyalgia, CFIDS (chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome), bad neck/back, bad reactions to any surgery I have had. Discuss these thigs with the Dr THEN discuss them with the anesthesiologist!!! THAT's what I did!!! & they madea world of difference in the way I came out of surgery & recovery. I did my part in getting the info & giving it to the doctors but I did also give it over to God as well as I know he sees my struggles. After the surgery it IS pretty rough & it did exacerbate my other conditions but I just powered through, gave it time to heal, did what I was supposed to do & trusted these people that have posted on here & what my Dr has said. So if/when you do have the surgery & there is something that you aren't sure of, you can read, ask & gain knowledge. I pray for you to get your answers & be at peace with whatever decision you make. I have been asked if I regret my desicion b/c it is taking so long to recover....NO, I haven't. Even though 14 weeks out, I don't know what this 'normal' feeling will be yet...I'm still in the fight to get there. I know it will be better than what I was going through for 3 1/2 yrs.
btw...I am watching The Bible. It's good, a couple of things maybe in it questionable...but overall, very well done. Anything that makes me feel closer to God is good. But am I the only one who thinks the man portraying Jesus is absolutely gorgeous?!?!?! :))) or what?!
:) Happy healing everyone!
im about to go in for a consultation with a surgeon about the mortons neuroma... my left foot I suspect has two... and it also has bursitis.
im getting my right foot done as well I hope...
but im petrified. I love the gym and exercise and im just so scared that ill never be able to do anything like that again.
im wearing a horrible looking boot on my left foot to calm down the bursitis...I lost my job and am doing my 4th yr of uni instead of working because I didn't really have a choice. and I know I need the op but its so scary. im only 22! :(
this is the first blog iv read that seems like it may actually fix my problem.. I read that the nerves can grow back a little and become more painful than before...
basically im freaking out!!!
Thanks for your story and your comments! I am having surgery next month and making preparations. I wondered if you ran into any particular trouble since you had both feet/neuromas done. I have the same issue in each foot and would rather take care of them at the same time - but envision myself on crutches for ever. It seems like for you the post surgery shoe was a great help? Any particular suggestions for having both feet out of commission for awhile?
I did not run into any particular trouble having both feet done at the same time. I felt like it was more convenient to get them both over with simultaneously. In my thinking, if I was going to have to sit around with one foot up and take pain pills, why not sit around with both feet up and take pain pills? I couldn't imagine going through the whole procedure twice. And I never regretted my decision. I never even used crutches. I just hobbled around, keeping my weight on either my heels or the sides of my feet until it was comfortable to let the balls of my feet touch the floor. At this point, I would have to go back and read my own posts to remember details of each stage of my recovery. I couldn't even tell you when I started to walk normally, etc. It's been over a year now and I'm doing great. My best advice is just to be patient and plan on giving your feet lots of rest. Don't rush the recovery period. Especially with both feet. You'll be a little more incapacitated at first, but you'll be glad you got it all done at once. Bathing was a little more complicated initially, since I had to keep both feet from getting wet. I stepped into a tub/shower, then sat down with a hand held sprayer, hung both legs over the side of the tub, then turned the water on in the tub. I kept my feet outside the tub the whole time, but doing this enabled me to enjoy soaking in the hot water a bit (which I found relaxing) and then rinsing off/shampooing my hair with the shower sprayer. I then waited for all the water to drain, put a towel on the floor of the tub, stood up in the tub and then stepped out of the tub to dry off. I did all of this wearing my post-surgical boot to protect my feet. You have to allow yourself plenty of time as every move has to be methodical and not rushed. You will be exhausted by the end of showering, washing and drying your hair. But it wasn't as hard as I expected it to be. I was very careful, not wanting to trip or fall. That was the trickiest part of having both feet done at the same time. I was surprised at how quickly I was able to hobble around in those boots (without crutches).
I have never had fibromyalgia and I did not have any other medical issues along with my MN. But I have had a mild case of shingles and I have had two episodes of frozen shoulder. So I am well aware of nerve pain and how hard it is to endure. I had a lot of radiating nerve pain with my shoulders. I didn't take anything specifically for the nerve pain. But I did take hydrocodone for a while, a muscle relaxer and anti-inflammatory. I just hate the side effects of taking medication, so I wanted off of everything as quickly as I could.
I did not have night sweats from the surgery. I do have hot flashes because of age-related hormonal changes. But they were no worse during my recovery.
Manelle, at age 22, I would definitely have the surgery. You have a long life ahead of you. You don't want to live with MN limitations for the rest of your life. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't have a great outcome. I wanted to do it before I got any older because the younger we are, the better our bodies heal. I think you'll do fine. Just be realistic and patient. The recovery takes a while. I have addressed stump neuromas and nerves growing back in either previous posts or comments because that question has been asked before. My doctor said a stump neuroma always forms where the nerve is cut. But how the end is place in the muscle is the key to avoiding future neuroma pain. That's why it's so important to get a surgeon who really is an expert at this surgery. My neuroma pain is completely gone in both feet. But I still sometimes have some weird sensations from the cut nerve. They don't bother me. It's just a reminder that something painful was removed. I've never been bothered by numbness or any discomfort other than healing from invasive surgery.
I've never had any shots other than cortisone injections. I didn't require physical therapy or any kind of follow up care other than stitches out and one other follow up visit, which consisted of telling my doctor I was doing great.
I would not at all start any PT with stitches in! I had my stitches out at 10 days & didn't start any PT until week 5. & when I did my incisions opened still. This surgery/recovery will not let you rush it. It takes it's own time to heal & you have to listen to what your feet are telling you they like & don't like. You have to give them ample time to heal before you start to manipulate the area with PT. I was told to leave them alone & I did. I have 4 incisons, at least 1 inch each with very large neuromas.
I've found there are no 'large turns'...all of my 'turn arounds' have been small victories...but am feeling much better now. It DOES get easier.
@ Katy, I am not sure what my Dr did as far as sewing, tucking. I asked about it & he assures me that he got it right. He's done a few thousand of these surgeries & has done sports injuries for professional basketball & tennis teams.
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Sheryl
This is Tayna again I got my cast off friday and into a airwalker cast, I had mn surgery/bunionectomy surgery. My question is after mn surgery is it commom for the ball of your foot to feel swollen /knot like feeling where mn was removed? That is what I'm experiencing currently and wondered if it is normal, what do you do for it?
Thanks in advance for any response
The soft tissue are neuromas in between 2nd and 3rd interspaces of both left and right foot; at least this is what MRI report states. I've gotten one cortisone shot with very little relief, if any, so far. I go in for another cortisone shot for both feet next week. Doc says that if cortisone shots don't work she wants to try alcohol injections. Has anyone tried alcohol injections? Any advice? It seems wrong to try to kill the nerve.
This blog is giving me hope, but recovery from surgery seems to be very long and that scares me. In addition, I already have a lot of electricity going on in my feet right now. It's been difficult to sleep when these little electrical storms happen. Shooting pains seem like a major side effect right after surgery with major swelling. Just a little apprehensive of taking the plunge if need be.
Any advice is welcomed.
I had surgery about a wks ago and have noticed at week 6 that half of my foot pad is a little swollen and feels hard kinda like a knot. Did you have this and if so how long did it take to go away? The triage nurse at my dr's office told me it was normal and most of it would dissolve and the rest if any could be worked out. It has me worried I have never had any other surgery so I have nothing to compare it to.
Have you read any of my other updates besides this one? You can search morton's neuroma and/or surgery update in the search bar (upper left) and they should all pop up. I can't remember details anymore of when I did anything! It's been over a year now since my surgery and I've been feeling good for so long that it's all gotten a bit fuzzy in the way of details. But I'm sure I blogged about your questions along the way.
The first shoes I wore were a pair of Merrells and I know I posted a picture of them. I think it was in the four week post surgery range that I tried them. They are made of thin material and had plenty of room in them for my walkfit orthotics, which keeps your weight more on your arch and off the ball of your foot. Most of my shoes fit a little snugger after surgery. Even now that there's no visible swelling, I sometimes feel like my feet are just a fraction bigger than before surgery. I can still usually wear an 8 but some shoes that were loose are not loose now. And I bought a pair of flats in an 8 1/2 just because they seemed snug in my normal 8. But I haven't gone up a size across the board. It really depends on the shoe.
I never regretted the surgery, even in the early weeks. I expected more pain than I had. And I noticed gradual improvement. Every once in a while I'd worry about something and wonder if it was normal, but I was always assured it was. At this point, I am SO glad I went ahead and did it and got it behind me. You will be too.
Andrea
Thank you, Andrea! I appreciate you taking the time to let me know my blog was helpful to you!
Dont worry about the internet horror stories. They are few and far in between
I have been back at the gym fir 2 weeks now and feel good while exercising... Stairmaster and bicycle
I dont limp anymore with shoes on... Still cant walk barefoot cause it feels like a wlanut is stuck to the ball of my foot, and , if i walk a bit, my foot is really achy and sore feeling on top.. In the arch area, not sure why.
Also, it is a few millimeters bigger in all directions, so shoes are tight on that foot
But all in all, so far so good! Super glad i did it!
Am dreaming of a nice pair of shoes in the not too distant future!